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  • Date: 3/29/2004 4:32:00 AM
    Author: bobbi (bigddog803@go.com)
    Subject:home care

    50K running a home day care center? right. do the math. $150 a week maybe for a baby, and if you get a license you can only have 4-6 kids by yourself. I've seen $$$ made in home care, by bending rules or running your biz around the clock. I live near a major city, and there is a local hospital that pays you $250 a week per child for their employess, and you can only have 2. You do get, however, 2 paid vacation weeks, paid by the hospital (not the parent), and access to benefit packages. This offer is rare to find.


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  • Date: 4/7/2004 11:17:00 AM
    Author: Sissy
    Subject:child care rates

    A very healthy income CAN be earned doing home child care. I recommend being licensed, a member of a local support group, member of a food program, and most of all having a good thorough solid contract/policies for parents to abide by. (payment on Monday morning, sickness policy, hours, etc) My contract is 9 pages and grows each year. (Recently had to add an amendment on lice and pinworm after hearing of a friend's disaster in her home childcare!) The tax benefits are wonderful, and being home for my children is a perk! In the midwest, with 6 - 8 kids over each day, roughly 48 weeks per year (take some time for yourself and your own family!) at $110/week you can earn $32,000 plus!


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  • Date: 5/3/2005 4:45:00 PM
    Author: Rhonda (crkbar_32@yahoo.com)
    Subject:relocating

    Hi, I am a Preschool teacher with my Associate degree in applied science Early childcare education. I was planning on moving from the Boston area to MO. in the fall. I was wondering on the pay rate in the areas. Also what the ratio of classroom size are? Thanks


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  • Date: 5/2/2004 1:52:00 PM
    Author: Blaire C (bchapman8@houston.rr.com)
    Subject:Need more info on inhome childcare please!

    Please help me! What is the going rate for in home daycare for a 2-year-old? How many vacation/sick days do you, as the provider, get a year? Do you get paid for all of those days?


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  • Date: 6/11/2007 4:29:00 AM
    Author: Karen (kpattelena@gmail.com)
    Subject:Income

    I charge 8.00 an hour for the first child and 12.00 for the second child. I take at least 2 vacations a year and I do not charge for them. I am making about 43,000 at home. Good Luck


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  • Date: 7/21/2007 7:36:00 PM
    Author: patricia M Lee (patricialeew@aol.com)
    Subject:child care in MN.

    I have a flat fee for my day care. $125.00 weekly across the board. I make 5,000 more with an infant if they stay until the child starts school. I also have other children 10 in various ages. During the summer I make approx. 1250.00 a week. Try to make your fees fair to the parents and also be fair to your needs as far as an income. I love the parents and children that I have and we have become an extented family in a way/sorts. I also have 1 week paid and 1 week personal paid with another week of non paid. My contracts a long and worded carefully and during a meeting with newcomers I make sure they understand my contracts. Having all your eggs in a basket; helps!


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  • Date: 5/2/2004 1:53:00 PM
    Author: Blaire C (bchapman8@houston.rr.com)
    Subject:sissy, Can you tell me all the things yo...

    sissy, Can you tell me all the things you include in your contract? I need major help!


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  • Date: 3/15/2006 10:14:00 AM
    Author: Holly (udovich@charter.net)
    Subject:Pin Worm??

    Disaster in Childcare. Please Help. I may have a child with a case of Pin Worm in my home daycare. Can anyone give me advice or help.


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  • Date: 7/27/2004 4:49:00 PM
    Author: Owner FCC Home and Preschool (jsadams@)
    Subject:Need help?

    Hi Blare, Have you made any progress opening your Home Child Care? I can help point you in the right direction… Check with your state department of social services community care licensing first; they can connect you with your local resource and referral for childcare and answer any questions regarding child care licensing in your state. Each R&R; has access to the regional market rates for child care services in your area, (In central California I charge $25 per day for toddlers and $22 per day for preschoolers, which is barely over my local regional market rates.) This should help you set your prices, but do not forget to be successful you will need to have enough equipment, supplies, and safe space (this costs money up front). Check into food reimbursement programs too; here in California we are reimbursed for some of our food expenses if we follow certain nutritional and health & safety guidelines etc. You are wise to have a clearly defined contract and parent handbook including your child care philosophy, health and safety practices, attendance, clothing, paid vacation days and sick day policies. In California, FCC providers can receive ten paid national holidays per year for children who are on subsidized care. The holidays are usually the same days parent's are off from work anyway, so I have it in my contract that these are my paid days off too – otherwise I do not get paid for time off – like my own sick days. I recommend you join NAFCC; they will help you stay abreast of child care issues that will affect your business income. They have an accreditation program specifically for Family Child Care programs and lots of other resources for providers. Family Child Care is rewarding but not easy; long hours, troubled families, lack of respect for you as a professional, lack of privacy in your own home, increased incidence of illness in your home, and folks who skip out on paying, are just a few of the challenges you will face. The cooperation and unconditional support of your family is essential. Best of luck – I love what I do, hope you will too! Any other questions?


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  • Date: 6/25/2004 7:14:00 AM
    Author: schari (schari@earthlink.net)
    Subject:home based care

    I have had a home-based childcare for 17 years, caring for the children of teachers, so I'm off in June and July. I'm in Kansas and charge $95.00 per week for a 2 year old. Good for the person who makes $36,000 a year - GREAT income!! Anyone starting up though, remember, your expenses come right off the top of what you make. There are many expenses in childcare that you have receipts for and some that are not so well documented, such as wear and tear on your house and furniture, extra electrical and water use, etc. (Kids flush toilets and wash hands alot of times in day!)


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  • Date: 7/10/2004 8:49:00 PM
    Author: Jeanne
    Subject:Childcare in Asia

    After reading all your posts, I've decided to provide some insights into childcare wages in Singapore (a country in South East Asia). Over here, the government is finally recognising the importance of the early years and we are finally trying to upgrade the teachers' minimum standards to a Diploma in Early Childhood teaching. For a teacher with a diploma, the annual wage would be USD$10,700 - USD$12,000. For myself, a centre directress with 9 years of teaching experience and a degree in Early childhood teaching, I am only earning a measly sum of USD$16,000 a year. We have an important job of teaching the young of today and the leaders of tomorrow but our salary pales in comparison with other industries. Our government doesn't want to get involved because childcare centres are privately run but yet at the same time, we are acredited by a government body which is looking to eventually upgrade teachers to the degree level in a few years time. Would a degree holder want to earn USD$15,000 a year when other industries are probably paying double? People like us who are still in this industry are there because of our passion for teaching young children. But honestly, money talks and if you need to keep up with the rising costs of living and raising a family, sometimes switching jobs is the only solution.


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  • Date: 7/18/2004 8:22:00 AM
    Author: KODI (JFJM@aol.com)
    Subject:wages

    I worked for KINDERCARE FOR OVER 20 YEARS AS A PRE K TEACHER WHEN I GOT SMART AND LEFT I WAS ONLY MAKING 11.57 I LIVE IN CALIFORNIA BETWEEN SAN FRANICSO AND THE STATE CAPITAL SACARMENTO. I NOW WORK FOR A SCHOOL DISTRICT MAKING $16.00.


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  • Date: 8/11/2004 2:44:00 AM
    Author: Early Childhood Educator
    Subject:Re: wages

    I also worked for Kinderscare (oops!) and left. After many years of teaching and not being compensated appropriately for my experience and efforts, I departed. In reflection, that was the best decision I made in my teaching career. Now I make more than twice the amount that I made at Kinderscare (oops again!). I work at a school district that is the best! My administrators are wonderful. I like all the staff. I get medical, dental, vision, etc. Plus, I don't have to use my own money to buy school supplies! Staff turnover is minimal (can you guess why?) So what's my point???? Don't settle for less...even if there are many schools that don't pay and appreciate your efforts, find one that does. If not start your own daycare. There is so much talk about raising the quality of child care....it doesn't require a brain surgeon to figure out that in order to raise the standards of teaching, we need to raise the standards of wages! Our government needs to stop demanding higher standards for teachers if wages are going remain minimal. How can we continue to further our education if we can't even afford to pay rent, feed, and cloth our families? Teachers wear many hats, but we are not miracle workers. (Yet, I'm sure there are plenty of teachers out there than do make their low wages stretch in ways that I am unable to.) My sincere admiration to you that do. Sorry I got off track...but please fellow early childhood teachers, find a school that will compensate you the way you deserve to be.


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  • Date: 7/21/2004 6:17:00 PM
    Author: Lora (cozycritters@mchsi.com)
    Subject:wages & owning a center

    I did home daycare for 10 years in my home before opening my own center. I've been open for 4 years now. The turn over just makes me sick. There are some great people out there that love children and will do a great job making $7.00 to start and going up to $9.75 right now. However, like several others have stated--you need to provide for your own family and it's hard to do on those wages. I wish I could pay staff what we all deserve, however, it is impossible to do in Delaware. The parents can not afford to pay higher prices (if we get paid at all) With all the expenses to run the center, materials for the classes and having 3 teachers in every room instead of just 1-2 staff the payroll costs is breaking even every week with what I bring in. Sometimes even more if staff are on vacation and I need to find fill ins. Hopefully some day soon we will all be recognized for the great work we do and receive some help with these low paid wages.


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  • Date: 7/27/2004 5:00:00 PM
    Author: Owner FCC Home and Preschool (jsadams@mlode.com)
    Subject:FCC to Center based care

    HI, I am a FCC Provider with 32 ECE units including California state required classes to be a site supervisor...hopefully I will soon qualify for program director. I was planning to open my own center at that point and get the business out of my home, but after looking over your post, I am thinking the tax benefits of having the business in my home will wind up keeping me at the house. Is it really better for you (income and headache wise) to have a center?


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  • Date: 11/17/2006 11:32:00 AM
    Author: Shelly (Amazing Kids CCC)
    Subject:pay rates

    Amen Lora! It is so difficult to pay those that really do the work what the are really worth. With the regulations that you have to stick to and the offerings as far as an employer and the type of hours - which no body wants to work - it's hard for an employer to really make a living at running a daycare center. It's not that we don't want to pay our staff more, it's that we really can't. Ratios and training and vacation and... It all adds up faster than the money comes in. I have an absolutely awesome staff and I really wish it was possible to pay all of them what they truly deserve, but I do the best I can with I can.


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  • Date: 7/27/2004 10:06:00 PM
    Author: schari (schari@earthlink.net)
    Subject:Re: Home child care 50K a yr

    Have you ever figured up about what percentage of your income goes directly off the top to pay your business expenses and taxes? (Including all toys, food, supplies, everything.) I think my percentage is about 35-40%. Just wondering what ball park other home child care providers are in, percentage-wise for expenses.


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  • Date: 8/4/2005 2:45:00 PM
    Author: Kristina (sharig0562@aol.com)
    Subject: food reimbursement programs

    In California where do you find info for the food reimbursement programs?


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  • Date: 7/31/2004 7:10:00 PM
    Author: schari (hope@earthlink.net)
    Subject:Hi Andrea, My home child care business ...

    Hi Andrea, My home child care business is going great. I love having the children with me every day - they are such a blessing to me. However, I do not gross near what the poster above me says they gross. When figuring the prices I will charge - which are average to high in my area - I try to make it so that I will net between $7.00 - $9.00 per hour after I take off all my expenses. I know some child care providers that, after having been taught how to figure their hourly wage, are shocked to find they are making between $3.00 to $5.00 an hour. It would be great to be able to make $15.00 an hour, but you are somewhat limited in what you can make. Your income depends on how many children you have and how much the parents will pay. Cutting expenses is one way you can raise your hourly income, and I'm not real good at that. As you well know, none of us teachers, whether it's in a school system or home child care, make what we are worth. But, because I have a heart for these children and know how valuable our time together is, I am perfectly content and fulfilled doing just what I'm doing and hope I can do it for many years to come.


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  • Date: 9/14/2004 9:54:00 PM
    Author: Lois (lois.erickson@students.vu.edu.au)
    Subject:accurate figures for early childhood teaching

    Some accurate information for early childhood employment conditions in Aust - they vary between States and according to whether the work is in child care or early childhood education. Child care workers are paid less than teachers. In our second most populated State, Victoria, where I am President of a kindergarten (pre-school) parent management committee, our teacher is paid $A23.86 per hour. She has a 4 year degree in early childhood education and has ten years experience. Full time work is 40 hours per week, with 3 end-of-term holdays of 2 weeks each, and a summer holiday of 5 weeks (in January). Our assistant, who is unqualified, gets $14.40 per hour. Employers also pay a compulsory amount equal to 9% of salary into superannuation (retirement) funds for every staff member. There are no employer-provided medical benefits because we have a universal, government-funded, national health scheme called Medicare. Many people also pay for additional private health insurance for themselves, unconnected with employment. We also provide paid sick leave of up to two weeks per year and paid long-service leave of 10 weeks after 15 years of employment (doesn't all have to be in the same kindergarten) Casual pay rates are higher than permanent rates to make up for loss of other benefits eg sick leave, holidays. So maybe it is greener Downunder after all!


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  • Date: 8/30/2004 2:37:00 PM
    Author: Yasmine (Sweetsmile702@aol.com)
    Subject:ENOUGH WAGE?

    I'm starting at Kindercare and they're offereing me $10.00 for lead teacher in a 3yr old preschool classroom. Is that average or above average? I'm almost done with my Ass. in Child Dev. and want to be a Director sooner than later... does anyone know how much they get paid? Thanks and GOOD LUCK TO ALL.


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  • Date: 6/10/2007 5:56:00 AM
    Author: Tina (bettina_to@yahoo.com)
    Subject:This is above average. I am the current...

    This is above average. I am the current Lead Training Teacher (also known as Director of Curriculum) and have been in charge of hiring for my Childtime location in Georgia. The highest starting pay that I have offered is $10. For Assistant Director/Director, you can earn between $20K to $35K. It depends on the school and location and of course your experience and education.


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  • Date: 8/30/2004 2:46:00 PM
    Author: TEACHER PAY
    Subject:Im starting at Kindercare and theyre off...

    I'm starting at Kindercare and they're offereing me $10.00 for lead teacher in a 3yr old preschool classroom. Is that average or above average? I'm almost done with my Ass. in Child Dev. and want to be a Director sooner than later... does anyone know how much they get paid? Thanks and GOOD LUCK TO ALL.


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  • Date: 9/30/2004 1:26:00 AM
    Author: Cath (jeffandcath@paradise.net.nz)
    Subject:Pay rates

    Hi I work in an Early Childhood Centre in New Zealand. In NZ, Child Care Centres are generally privately owned or Parent co-operatives run by a Committee. In my Centre, with a Diploma in Early Childhood Teaching you would start on NZ$12approx getting more if you had an EC Teaching Degree. You would progress up the scale each year. If you were the Centre manager then your pay would reflect the increased responsibility. At the moment our union "NZEI" is working towards Pay Parity. Secondary, Primary and Kindergarten teachers (preschool 3-5 years) are all paid the same based on experience and qualifications and hopefully we're next. Our parents pay NZ$189 for a week fulltime care. We look after children from 6 months - 5 years.


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  • Date: 5/31/2006 11:26:00 PM
    Author: sam (sammy141173@hotmail.com)
    Subject:pay

    Hi im in my second year studying towards a BtchLn at cce. What is the average pay rate for an early childhood teacher in Christchurch with a degree?


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  • Date: 11/6/2005 5:35:00 PM
    Author: unschooling
    Subject:What Kindercare did you apply at? What S...

    What Kindercare did you apply at? What State? Thanx Sara shitchins@jjc.student.edu


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  • Date: 11/17/2005 7:25:00 PM
    Author: D. Matt (nurturingnest@yahoo.com)
    Subject:national resources

    here are a few National Clearinghouse on Child abuse & Neglect Information 330 C st SW Washington, DC 20447 800-394-3366 National Comittee for the Prevention of Child abuse PO Box 2866 Chicago, IL 60690-9950 312-663-3520 childabuse.org American Academy of Pediatrics 141 Northwest Point Blvd Elk Grove Village, IL 60007-1098 www.aap.org Centers for Disease Control National Immunization Program 1600 Clifton rd. Building 16 D25 Atlanta, GA 30333 NAEYC 1509 16th st. MW Washington, DC 20036 www.naeyc.org Center for Child Care Workforce 733 15th st NW suite 1037 Washington, DC 20005-2112 www.ccw.org


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  • Date: 10/24/2004 1:49:00 AM
    Author: kattherine
    Subject:pay rates in canada

    are there any early childhood educators out there in canada? what are our pay wages like across the different provinces. I now a worker in Victoria who looks after 8 3 year olds and is making 14 an hour. We would never see that much in calgary. But we do have government funding for the workers depending on your level..1= .52cents an hour...level 2=64 cents an hour and level 3...- 1.18 an hour.per month in childcare hours.we sign for it each month to verify that we are actually working these hours. it comes out to 204 dollars before taxes.


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  • Date: 11/19/2005 12:11:00 PM
    Author: Meg (megramsey@rogers.com)
    Subject:Pay rates in Canada

    I think at $14/hour you are doing pretty good - how much experience do you have in the field? From what I have heard the western provinces typically pay less than the Eastern. I have heard that Alberta is by far the lowest paying for the field. And of course, the regionally run, or not for profit centres pay more than privately owned. I supervise a private centre in Ontario and my ECE's make between 10 - 12 an hour - depending on experience. We have just been approved for wage subsidy by the region and it looks like it should work out to about $3/hour more. I am new to the supervisor position and am making about $37,000/year - before the wage subsidy. From what I have heard that is more than most new supervisors. If there are other Canadian Supervisors/directors out there I would be interested to hear what the typical pay is in your area


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  • Date: 11/17/2006 6:27:00 PM
    Author: Christine
    Subject:Pay rates are unfair in Canada!

    I live in Ontario and I have been an ECE educator for 15 years. I have made 8.50hr atone place and then I made 9.50 at another. Now I have been home for 3ys and did home care and made 600.00 every 2 weeks watching 2 toddlers plus mine. I now have a new job and I got a lead position which is like an asst.supervisor and I only make 13.00/hr.Reg ECE makes 12.00/hr( and we are non-profit!) Now there are other centers around me that the employees are making 17.00/hr. If your lucky enough to get on with the city daycare than your laughing, they make 20-22/hr for ECE and 17-18 for assistanse(non ECE). Why such a huge gap in wages is beyond me! We all do the same things and yet there is such a discrency in pays! Count yourself lucky that you make so much esp in a profit center.


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  • Date: 1/3/2007 11:32:00 AM
    Author: Rudy
    Subject:pay rate.

    I started in Day care in the 80's at minimum wage which then was $3.35. I worked there 20 years. When I left i was making $6.60. I had no benefits. I would have loved to make the 12-22 dollars that you all make at that time. Now I work in a pre k classroom in my local school district and make the teacher salary.


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  • Date: 10/25/2004 7:23:00 PM
    Author: Lead Program Tech (hbhern@earthlink.net)
    Subject:pay

    It's true - it definitely depends on "who" you work for. I am employed by the Navy at the local CDC as a Lead Education Tech. We have both full time and flex employees and the salaries range from $10.00 (start pay) up to $15.00 + for care givers. Some employees have benefits while others don't so that can cause a problem at times.


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  • Date: 11/18/2004 8:07:00 AM
    Author: Jamie (Meyonder@aol.com)
    Subject:needed Info

    i would like to start my own inhome daycare, but i need the info to get started... like where do i go first? what do i do? trust me, i'm going in this blind!!! i have no idea how to do this. thank you Jamie Meyonder@aol.com


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  • Date: 11/18/2004 8:30:00 AM
    Author: Melissa (blockhar@charter.net)
    Subject:Need Info--starting DC

    First start at your state guidelines, call your local DHHR office request the info on family dc--they will send you a book and info. Do you know your age group you want to care for? Pay Rate? Your home?/ can you have a dc in you home--some places it is against zoning or home associations prohibit it--IS your family supporting you? Do you have a certain area of your home set up for dc?? This does make life in dc so much easier lol---there are many email lists on yahoo that have dc list that can help with many ??;s I will help all I can here is my web site http://welcome.to/lockyourhartonkids


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  • Date: 12/4/2004 4:24:00 PM
    Author: tammy (tlm372002@yaoo.com)
    Subject:childcare worker loses benifits after 12 years of service

    HELLO I AM AN INFANT TEACHER IN A CHILDCARE CENTER IN EAST TENNESSEE. AFTER 12 YEAR'S OF SERVICE NEW OWNERS HAVE COME IN AND TAKEN OVER. I JUST FOUND OUT 2 DAYS BEFORE THANKSGIVING THAT I WOULD NOT RECIEVE MY PAID VACATION THE LAST WEEK OF DECEMBER. HOW DEVASTATING THIS WAS TO ME, IT WAS OBIVIOUS THAT THE NEW OWNERS HAVE NO RESPECT,INTEREST,OR CARE FOR THE STAFF. ANY COMMENTS,QUESTIONS OR WORDS OF ADVICE WOULD BE WELCOME


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  • Date: 12/4/2004 10:04:00 PM
    Author: Ginger (g.still@verizon.net)
    Subject:Tammy, Just a comment. I dont think ...

    Tammy, Just a comment. I don't think that the new owners have a lack of respect for the staff. To them, you are a new employee starting at ground zero. The line becomes fuzzy in a way because you've been there for 12 years and you have paid vacation coming to you. But more appropriately, the previous owner is the one who would owe you the paid vacation time. What would have been nice (and respectful)is for the old employer to have made provisions for staff who had vacations or sick leave coming to them to be cashed out prior to closing their interest in the business. Just a thought:)


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  • Date: 12/12/2005 8:50:00 PM
    Author: Kelly Santiago (allourkinkelly@yahoo.com)
    Subject: Tammy, I think that you may be letting ...

    Tammy, I think that you may be letting them get away with what they are doing to you, you need to stand up for yourself and you rights! I don't know if you are a full time employee, but you have been working there a long time and I think that every job is supposed to give you vacation time. Hope it all works out alright!


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  • Date: 6/10/2007 6:06:00 AM
    Author: Tina (bettina_to@yahoo.com)
    Subject:Corporate VS Franchise

    and I have found that this is part of the ugly side of working for franchisees, rather than being with a corporate location. However, the bad side of corporate is, they do not have the freedom to offer you as much as a franchise location. There are pay scales corporate locations have to stick by and raises are usually between $0.04 to $0.25 per year. I prefer working for corporate because you are likely to be treated more fairly, but the pay is not as potentially great.


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  • Date: 12/4/2004 4:24:00 PM
    Author: tammy (tlm372002@yaoo.com)
    Subject:childcare worker loses benifits after 12 years of service

    HELLO I AM AN INFANT TEACHER IN A CHILDCARE CENTER IN EAST TENNESSEE. AFTER 12 YEAR'S OF SERVICE NEW OWNERS HAVE COME IN AND TAKEN OVER. I JUST FOUND OUT 2 DAYS BEFORE THANKSGIVING THAT I WOULD NOT RECIEVE MY PAID VACATION THE LAST WEEK OF DECEMBER. HOW DEVASTATING THIS WAS TO ME, IT WAS OBIVIOUS THAT THE NEW OWNERS HAVE NO RESPECT,INTEREST,OR CARE FOR THE STAFF. ANY COMMENTS,QUESTIONS OR WORDS OF ADVICE WOULD BE WELCOME


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  • Date: 5/9/2005 4:46:00 PM
    Author: Tammy (tlm372002@yaoo.com)
    Subject: Ginger, just a few lines to say hi and ...

    Ginger, just a few lines to say hi and to let you know what changes have occured sinse my last post. I gave notice of 2 weeks after finding a new job. I now work in a headstart center with the extended care dept. with 3,4,5 year old's. I have been there for 1 month and I really enjoy it. I have benefits and it is only 4 miles from my home. The staff member's have most helpful to in the change and ajustments and I feel so appreciated and respected by all. Thanks for all of your advice. Tammy


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  • Date: 12/5/2004 3:35:00 PM
    Author: tammy (tlm372002@yaoo.com)
    Subject:GInger,thank you for the thought. I do a...

    GInger,thank you for the thought. I do agree with what you said.Let me give you a little more background info. I guess I am just hurt because i have always been very comfortable there until now.The new owners are the 3rd ones in 12 years. The most recent was an elderly woman in her 60's who was there for8 years. Everyone there children,parents,staff loved her and the enviourment was very family oriented. Just imagine the shock we are experiencing, the new owners, husband/wife are very cold to the staff and very fake to the parents,ie,like they are so loving,ect. WE have lost 19 children since they came and more pending. Parent,s just do not feel comfortable and can tell they are different. So that tell's you something isn't right. We were told with them being there 3 months that there would not be paid vacations,sick day's just 2 day's befoe Thanksgiving. This affected only myself and one other staff member , so we did feel slighted. The man walks around and stares into the classrooms many,many times during the day. This makes the staff very uncomfortable we just don't understand this,he never says anything unless it is very sarcastic,cold. He seems to be very controlling with his wife as if she does not have a voice. I have seen them lie to staff,parent's so I do not have any trust in them as other staff as well. They seem very frugal to the point of saving/freezing food for weeks at a time and reserving it. They are on the state food assistance program so I know there is money provided to feed the children each day. I am not sure this is acceptable with the health dept.as well. So yousee we are just going through big changes and so far i do not see them as positive for the families,community. It is a very small area with limited jod's. I really love the families I work with each day and hate to see so many alreadyleave thinking more are on there way out. Children should be secure and confident in the place where they spend while parent's are working,ect. Are you in child daycare? What type of enviourment are you in?


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  • Date: 12/5/2004 6:30:00 PM
    Author: Ginger (g.still@verizon.net)
    Subject:Tammy- Wow! Thats horrible, no wonder ...

    Tammy- Wow! That's horrible, no wonder you feel the way you do! It sounds like a very uncomfortable position to be in. I'm sure you feel like your hands are tied if the job market is tight. I would definitely start looking for another center or perhaps open your in-home. You sound like you have the best interest of the children and would miss them dearly. But...sometimes you have to do what is going to be best for you and your family. Being in a negative environment isn't good for anyone. I am in childcare. I have operated my own in-home for 12 years with 12 children and 2 assistants and more recently (the last 2 1/2 years) I have been operating my own childcare centers. The first one was opened in 7/02 and that was a new start up licensed for 55 children. The second one my business partner and I purchased an existing business that was going to close due to a family crisis. That was 8/03 and it is licensed for 65 children. We actually just moved into a brand new facility for the first sight and our capacity is 78 now. My website is www.kidsworldchildcare.net if you'd like to see. I've not changed the photos yet and the site needs work, but your more than welcome to check it out. Just as a side note, I would keep my eyes open and become familiar with licensing standards in your state. Being frugal is one thing, but the needs of the children should come first. If usda is subsidizing the food there are specific guidelines that must be met. I guess my concern is that if they are willing to cut back on something like nutrition, do you have the necessary tools to do your job effectively i.e. supplies, resources, etc.? I wish you the best of luck!


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  • Date: 1/13/2005 6:45:00 PM
    Author: jamil rehman (jamil@hussains.com)
    Subject:are any of you required to do planning o...

    are any of you required to do planning on your own time- I'm payed hourly.......not salary, and if ratio is down,we are required to leave and not get paid. just curious.


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  • Date: 1/18/2005 8:11:00 PM
    Author: Center Director (g.still@verizon.net)
    Subject:Planning on your own time

    If you are an hourly employee (or salary for that matter)you should not be doing lesson planning on your own time without pay. I understand the director wanting to send staff home if the ratios do not warrant keeping you there; however, lesson planning should come first. Perhaps you can mention in a nice way that if the ratios are low you would be happy to get caught up on any planning or prepartion that you may need. Legally, you cannot be required to perform work without pay. Hope this helps!


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  • Date: 8/12/2005 8:23:00 AM
    Author: Brenna
    Subject:cut hours and planning time

    Yes, when I worked in a center, I was sent home early all the time. My daughter was there in another classroom, so I was usually the one going home because of ratio. It made me mad because there were plenty of other women there with their kids, not getting their hours cut. So I called my director when I got home and told him how upset that made me and we came up with a solution. We all kind of took turns going home early. About the planning outside of work, we were told we would not be paid for that, and that if we need extra time to plan, to let them know. You should communicate with your director about planning time and your hours being shortened fairly.


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  • Date: 12/16/2005 10:06:00 AM
    Author: Barb (bjliben1386@aol.com)
    Subject:If our numbers are down, I always have t...

    If our numbers are down, I always have things that need done so staff do not have to go home early. I know that they all need their full pay. Planning time is built into everyone's schedule, if not daily, at least several times a week. We always have extra cleaning that doesn't ever seem to get done, like the copier room or art supply closet. Some staff will choose to leave early, knowing that they will not be paid for a full shift.


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  • Date: 2/9/2005 9:45:00 AM
    Author: J Lo (c15go@yahoo.com)
    Subject:Pay Rate

    WOW!!! WEST VIRGINIA ONLY PAYS CHILD CARE PROVIDER $5.15 TO $7.00 AN HOUR!! DEPENDING ON EXPERIENCE!!


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  • Date: 2/10/2005 8:02:00 AM
    Author: Krista (manitou_chic@hotmail.com)
    Subject:I have a question

    I have a few questions...I'm interested in taking the Early Childhood Education this fall, but then I was wondering after I get my diploma and work for a day care centre for 2 years, I want to go back to school. What's the next thing higher then an ECE? What would be the best thing to go for?? If anyone has any kind of information, please reply, thank you Krista Horton


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  • Date: 2/18/2005 12:22:00 PM
    Author: Nancy (Nancy2550@aol.com)
    Subject:Opening preschool in my home

    After teaching kindergarten for 12 years and working in a private preschool for 14 years, my director is retiring. I am thinking of opening a private preschool out of my home. I would only have about 6 pre-k students for 2 1/2 hour session in the morning and then 6 more in the afternoon session. What are the guidelines for doing this? How much space do I need, number of exits, minimum requirements for codes, etc. I would really appreciate some advise. I want to keep my business very small, no more than 6-8 children at a time. Thanks! Nancy


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  • Date: 3/8/2005 8:58:00 AM
    Author: Malory (jjsmami52903@aol.com)
    Subject:Attn: Rhee form worcester, Ma & all others

    I am currently deciding to enroll in early childhood education. I am hoping you can clear some things up for me?? I noticed most programs are associate degrees, would that allow me to teach or be an asst.? The bachelor programs I would assume would be the teachers? Also, do you have to take a state's teacher exam? Rhee: I live in the worcester ma area & was curious if that rate of pay is generally the same rate around our area? Thank you all! -MaLory


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  • Date: 3/8/2005 7:05:00 PM
    Author: Rhee
    Subject:Pay in Worcester, Mallory

    I have heard that most lead teachers in our area make somewhere between 12.00 - 15.50 depending upon experience and education. An Associates Degree will allow you to be teacher qualified with a certain amount of months experience at this time. Soon, the criteria will change for all teachers and assistants to hold a BA Degree. Check out the regulations on the DOE website. Good luck!


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  • Date: 3/8/2005 9:03:00 AM
    Author: Malory (jjsmami52903@aol.com)
    Subject:Attn: Rhee from worcester, ma & all others

    I am currently deciding to enroll in early childhood educ, it has always interested me. I was hoping you could clear up some things for me. I noticed alot of the programs are associate degrees. Would that allow me to teach or be an asst.? I always assumed w/ the bachelor degree you would be the teacher...or is it just a pay difference? Rhee: I am also from the worc, ma area & was curious if your rate of pay is typical of our area??


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  • Date: 4/26/2005 3:39:00 PM
    Author: Rajkuver (Rajkuver@cox.net)
    Subject:How much can I make as a teacher in a daycare in Fairfax,Virgini

    I have applied for a part time position of a teacher in a Viginia Daycare.I would like to know,how much should I ask for as an hourly wage?Thanks.


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  • Date: 4/29/2005 8:53:00 PM
    Author: Terri
    Subject:low pay

    I read that only three other "professions" have lower rates of pay than chidlcare. Reading that chilled me to the bone. How very sad. It is demoralizing and infuriating. Parents pay a good amount for childcare, but the actual people who run the businesses(caregivers0 receive low pay, little respect, and zero perks. Is it time to consider a union?


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  • Date: 10/8/2005 1:10:00 PM
    Author: Jackie
    Subject:Union

    The people who own private child care centers are really not that much better off than you. I have owned a child care center for 12 years now. The salary difference between myself and the director is about 2,000 dollars a year and I am the one with all my money tied up in the center and have to accept all the liability if anything goes wrong. Having a union would do very little to change anything because to pay my staff more would mean that I would have to raise prices and then the parents could not afford to have thier children in child care. It would mean closing the center and my staff losing the job and income that they do have. It is a catch 22. The only child care positions that a union may have an effect on would be possible school district positions or maybe head start positions.


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  • Date: 5/1/2005 11:44:00 AM
    Author: Lori (Lori06764@cs.com)
    Subject:I need help with a little of every thing.

    Ladies, I am starting a Daycare Center in Virginia about 30 mins. from Charlottesville. I'm looking for employees and I'm trying to find out what to pay them, benefits ect. and what to charge the parents. Now remember I'm just getting started and I plan to upgrade within one year,then in three years and then five years. The center will take in twenty children, Infant to 12 years old, hours will be 6am to 6:30pm monday to friday in the first year. By the third year I plan to take in forty children same age group, hours will be 6am to 10pm monday to friday and weekends by appt. only. By the 5th year the center will be open seven days a week twenty-four hours a day for the same age group.


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  • Date: 8/9/2005 12:59:00 PM
    Author: Brenna
    Subject:Wow, a 24 hour center? Thats very ambit...

    Wow, a 24 hour center? That's very ambitious of you! I would not be able to handle that I don't think. It'd be too sad to have these little kids sleepimg in a center instead of their own beds. It almost seems like it would encourage parents to persue night time jobs. That's just my opinion though. Good luck!


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  • Date: 5/3/2005 7:13:00 PM
    Author: Texas caregiver (rroe@sbcglobal.net)
    Subject:Wow, Lori.....a 24 hour daycare center! ...

    Wow, Lori.....a 24 hour daycare center! I'm not sure if that has ever been done, (to my knowledge). That service is a needed one. I do know that there is a demand for evening care because many women work in the evenings. I live near Austin, Texas and I charge $140.00 per child a week and I watch 4 total,(but I work 7:00 a.m. to 5:30 p.m., Monday thru Friday) Around here that is average pay. Now in other parts of Texas, such as Abilene, a provider makes around $80.00 per child a week, (but this information is from one source...there may be other providers in Abilene that make more). For your business I would charge parents $160.00 per week/per child at least during the day and then at least charge $175.00 full-time rate at night, (and you're going to need it to pay the evening rates of caregivers because it will be hard to find people to work a graveyard shift with children, even sleeping ones, with no incentive). These costs also weigh in benefits for your workers, if you supply that, and liability insurance for your center. That is only my opinion and you certainly will not be out of the ballpark by asking those prices. Infact, in some places on the east coast those prices would be considered conservative, especially if you provide good care. Best of luck to you!


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  • Date: 5/3/2005 7:44:00 PM
    Author: Texas caregiver (rroe@sbcglobal.net)
    Subject:I agree that center-based caregivers are...

    I agree that center-based caregivers are underpaid and set up poorly with benefits. I'm surprised that there are no unions for these workers because they certainly should have support of some kind, especially when it comes to base pay. We would see fewer turnovers in centers if this was the case and caregivers would feel more like the professionals that they are, (and appreciated!). If this trend continues, this country will see more home providers popping up because state regulated home-providers are as trained as anyone, (I have to complete CPR/first aid training plus 20 training hours, including 6 hours business management training, a year) and they can command more money and are recognized as business women/men. Child care center managers and owners should take note of that. We are also supplied with the same kind of age-related coursework for our little ones. Programs target the state regulated provider as much as they do the centers. I've never met a person who enjoyed working in a daycare center and I've met few that liked their director. These people have either completely got out of the field or have started their own in-home business. I think if centers were unionized and workers had better wages/benefits caregivers could better handle their job. The only downside to this belief, though, is that under a union even a poor caregiver gets the same amount as a good one. So I can understand an owner/director who would frown on that....and it would be hard to fire them as well if they are doing a bad job.


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  • Date: 8/9/2005 1:34:00 AM
    Author: Mike Barta (Mike@iacc.com.tw)
    Subject:In Taiwan

    In Taiwan you make about 2,000+ (plus bonuses on top of that) a month for just teaching 25 hours a week. you can check it out here. www.iacc.com.tw


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  • Date: 8/9/2005 1:03:00 PM
    Author: Brenna
    Subject:unions

    There are some kinds of unions in Oregon. They've started two that I've heard of. I don't think they have come up with dues and all of that yet, but they are out there. I don't think there are any for a center based child care though.


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  • Date: 11/17/2005 11:51:00 AM
    Author: Sherry (sherrycare@hotmail.cojm)
    Subject:unions

    Hello. Check out Brightside Academy centers in Philly. They are Union. The quality of care is unbelievably awful -and the union is so strong that caregivers know they pretty much cannot be fired. The workers DON'T make that much more, and if they actually did the math, the union dues bring it down even lower than the norm. It makes it hard to not be able to reward people doing a great job, and not be able to get rid of people doing a horrible job, which makes morale and motivation nonexistant.


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  • Date: 5/10/2005 6:55:00 AM
    Author: Director/Owner (g.still@verizon.net)
    Subject:Tammy- Thats great! Im glad everythin...

    Tammy- That's great! I'm glad everything has worked out. Good luck in your new position! Ginger


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  • Date: 8/8/2005 8:05:00 PM
    Author: me (bigddog803@go.com)
    Subject:breanna

    ohio


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  • Date: 8/9/2005 12:53:00 PM
    Author: Brenna
    Subject:That seems way underpaid with a degree a...

    That seems way underpaid with a degree and everything. Like most everyone here.


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  • Date: 8/12/2005 5:29:00 PM
    Author: daycare mom (ahenderson75@hotmail.com)
    Subject:what will I get paid?

    I hold a Master's Degree in Education, have been an elementary school teacher for 7 years, and recently opened my own in-home daycare to be able to stay home with my daughter. I have asked to be paid $5 per hour of care, meals included, and have met with some opposition from the parents (they feel my rate is too high!). I live in Massachusetts, where the cost of living is high, and I feel that $5 per hour for a certified, experienced, educated teacher is more than reasonable. Teachers and child care providers can't be paid enough for all of the love, effort, and attention they pour into their work!


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  • Date: 8/13/2005 8:06:00 AM
    Author: Terri
    Subject:parents want a freebie

    I think your rate is more than fair. In fact, i feel those parents are insane to object. What they really want is top quality care by educated professionals for free, or for fast food prices. The child they say they love so much is quite a financial drain, and instead of searching for quality care, they shop for bargain rates and then complain about the quality of the services. Parents need to understand that having a child will involve financial sacrifices, that the whole world should not be expected to subsidize their little darling's care, and that choices should have been considered before the parents chose to get pregnant. I think you are worth far more than a teenage babysitters price of $5 per hour. Print up a brochure with your education and experience featured and place them in higher income areas, and you may find you will have a waiting list.


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  • Date: 9/2/2005 2:34:00 PM
    Author: lynn (Hollandt59@aol.com)
    Subject:Salary for Directors

    how much do Center Directors Earn? Places like Kindercare, Tutortime, or La Petite Academy. I am even interested in what the private small religious schools are offering a Director with AA in Early Childhood.


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  • Date: 3/2/2007 8:28:00 PM
    Author: chris (mamick@jaxnet.net)
    Subject:Salary for Directors

    I'm the Director of a Parent's Day Out Program. We are church based, limited by the state to only two days per week and six hours per day. I make $10/hr or $120/week. Needless to say I put in WAAAAYYYYYY more hours than that. My teachers are paid $6.25/hour -- they do not have degrees in childcare. Most are Moms with big hearts and a calling to serve God by taking care of his littlest angels.


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  • Date: 6/10/2007 6:09:00 AM
    Author: Tina (bettina_to@yahoo.com)
    Subject:salary of directors for Learning Care Group

    make between $20K to $30K per year.


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  • Date: 9/2/2005 2:34:00 PM
    Author: lynn (Hollandt59@aol.com)
    Subject:Salary for Directors

    how much do Center Directors Earn? Places like Kindercare, Tutortime, or La Petite Academy. I am even interested in what the private small religious schools are offering a Director with AA in Early Childhood.


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  • Date: 9/4/2005 4:24:00 PM
    Author: Supervisor (megramsey@rogers.com)
    Subject:I supervise a privately owned centre in ...

    I supervise a privately owned centre in Ontario, Canada, and although ECE wages here are, I feel, pathetically low, I was shocked at some of the responses & how little some people are paid. I start my assistants at $9-$10 an hour - depending on experience. My ECE's start between $10-$12, also depending on experience. There are yearly wage increases based on performance. After 3 months of employment they get a benefit package with 80% coverage, 2 weeks paid holiday a year, and 5 paid & 5 unpaid sick days a year. I make $37,000 a year. I have been in the field for 5 years, with this company for 4 1/2 years, and in the position of Supervisor for only 4 months. I went to college for 2 years to obtain a diploma in ECE. I think it is disgraceful how little some people in this feild are paid considering how important our job is.


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  • Date: 10/8/2005 1:02:00 PM
    Author: Jackie
    Subject:Wages

    I'm in Michigan. I have a private center and this is what our pay scales look like. Teacher with AD and experience 7.00-8.00 start/with BA and experience 9.00-10.00 start Aid with some higher education in ECH 6.50-7.00 start/with high school diploma only 6.00 start Director with BA degree 25,000-28,000 to start


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  • Date: 10/11/2005 7:19:00 PM
    Author: Melissa
    Subject:Thats pathetic....

    That's pathetic.


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  • Date: 11/19/2005 10:00:00 AM
    Author: maria (fourisluck@comcast.net)
    Subject:wage scale

    Wow!. You mean to tell me a person who spent time and $$ to attain their BA to work in this field. What you pay is an insult


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  • Date: 10/12/2005 2:27:00 PM
    Author: terri
    Subject:Wages are obscenely LOW

    The examples offered by Jackie for her center in Michigan are sad. Although the director makes a livable wage the actual hard working teachers are kept at the poverty level. This is insulting, unfair, and outright disgusting to me as the work the teachers are doing is supposedly "valuable" and "important". If a childcare center states that it cares about the children's needs, but it doesnt feel it is necessary to provide educated, well paid teachers to care for them, then the "care" and the philosophy spouted in the glossy Center brochures are nothing more than hype. I would call it blatant misrepresentation. Childcare in America is a cookie cutter batch of institutions, employing hard working individuals at the lowest wages. Most are doing the same thing, in the same type of rooms, with the same kinds of programmed "curriculum", with the same kinds of hype to parents, with the same type of efforts to perpetuate what is a disgraceful state of affairs. Our children deserve better. Our childcare teachers deserve better. And the only ones who like it the way it is are at the top of the pay scale.


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  • Date: 11/17/2005 4:29:00 PM
    Author: Robin
    Subject:Low pay

    Wow, I can't believe the wages I'm seeing here! I work at a center in Michigan and I am a certified teacher. I make about 22,000 per year plus full benifits including sick days and personal business days. I work the school calendar year. My assistants make about $9.00 per hour no benifits (more if they've been there longer and/or have their CDA). I thought this was sad but now that I see what others are being paid, I'm considering myself lucky. I'm not sure what the solution is as I am on both sides here - I still have two children in day care and I can only pay so much but Child care workers need to make a living wage. The guys who mow the grass make more!!


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  • Date: 11/17/2005 6:47:00 PM
    Author: hard working teacher
    Subject:I disagree that most childcares are doin...

    I disagree that most childcares are doing the same thing, in the same type of room with the same kinds of programmed "curriculum." I make sure that my kids have a unique learning experience. I make sure that they are NOT participating in a programmed curriculum.


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  • Date: 11/7/2005 8:25:00 AM
    Author: Iftikhar (info@londonschoolofislamics.or.uk)
    Subject:Two Parents Theory

    Established 1981 London School of Islamics An Educational Trust 63 Margery Park Road London E7 9LD Email: info@londonschoolofislamics.org.uk www.londonschoolofislamics.org.uk Tel/Fax: 0208 555 2733 / 07817 112 667 Two Parents Theory According to Professor Tariq Ramadan, young Muslims have two parents, one their Muslim community and the other British society. He blames both parents for all their problems. Both of them could not and still not able to develop British Islamic Identity. They do not know where they belong. They are mis- fit not only for the host society because of their colour of skin but also for the Muslim community because they are unable to talk with their parents and elders in their own languages. They have become notoriously monolingual like native Britis. Muslims suffered discrimination in all walks of life, while they have contributed for the advancement of British economy. Now the second and third generation born and educated in the United Kingdom is blamed for the act of violence. Those who indulge in violence are not the product of Muslim schools. They come from well-educated middle class families. They are even educated in western institutions and liberal environment. It must be understood clearly that terror bombing is basically a political and not a religious response. A modern educated youth is far more aware of injustices being done to Muslims in Afghanistan, Iraq, Palestine, Kashmir and Chechnya. They also become aware of the past colonial history and its continuation in modern times to varied degrees. It was not hatred of the West but hatred to wards its policies. One must distinguish between the two. In case of London bombing, a life of total alienation led to a burst of rage in Leeds, according to Amy waldman of New York Times. These young men are motivated by both injustices at home and abroad. Their alienation and frustration play no lesser role than the sense of injustices by the western rulers against Muslims abroad. I am afraid even fatwas by Muslim scholars will not de-motivate them, unless suitable policies are adopted at home and abroad. Attacking radical preachers is a way of avoiding facing up the problems within mainstream British society. Banning extreme groups and exporting their leaders will just push the problem underground. There are many underlying factors to see the unrest among Muslim youths. Much has been said about the failure of Masajid to provide institutional avenues for frustrated Muslim youths to express their discontent. Elders are out of touch with the Muslim youths who then turn towards alternative channels to express their discontent. It is a fact that British racism is the greatest recruiting tool of so called Islamic terrorism. Muslims are expected to keep their faith entirely out of politics, yet faith plays a crucial role in the United States politics. Iftikhar Ahmad


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  • Date: 11/10/2005 8:59:00 AM
    Author: bobbiann (bigddog803@go.com)
    Subject:discontent

    In the 1950's America, black African-Americans also felt this discontent. However, you did not see them blowing up half the world. Terrorism is just plain anarchy. Those that participate should be punished severely. Iftikhar Ahmad, I suggest that you check out Dr. Martin Luther King's beliefs towardsd peaceful demonstrations to get your rights. The Public Broadcasting Station (PBS.org.) has a wonderful series about the civil rights movement in America and how peaceful activism led to change.


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  • Date: 12/22/2005 1:39:00 AM
    Author: Anonymous (anonymous@yahoo.com)
    Subject:Unions/Brightside Academy in Philly

    I am very, very familiar with this company, and Sherry's comments are accurate and a fair representation of the facts. Articles in pro-union publications tout how 'succesful' this 'partnership' is and serve up retention rates of staff as an example - but NEVER is the quality of care mentioned. Spend an hour in any one of Brightside's centers (formerly Allegheny Child Care) and you will probably leave wanting to cry for the children that spend their days there and the few good staff members trying to do a good job.


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  • Date: 11/20/2005 1:52:00 PM
    Author: Dawn (missdawnb@excite.com)
    Subject:Wages

    Wow, I think I should move to Canada! I too am in Michigan, in a rather affluent area, my owner/director has two centers, and I have my CDA as well as my AA in Pre-Elementary Education, and up until 4 months ago, I was paid only 7.00/hr!! Not only that, I worked preschool in the morning, and did kindergarten enrichment in the afternoon. I was participating in TEACH, a scholarship program in which I had to stay with my center in order to receive a bonus, and as a contractual obligation. As soon as the contract was up, I put in my notice and immediately was offered a raise. Not huge, but enough to keep me there for now. (fyi, I now make 9.00/hr pathetic) I feel bad that I stay there, only in that the owner gets away with MURDER!! as far as compliance issues go. I stay for many reasons, close proximity to my home and children's schools, love the kids and the parents, and my co workers are awesome. I have to admit though, it does hurt my conscience sometimes.


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  • Date: 11/21/2005 11:14:00 AM
    Author: Jessica (grishamgirl1@yahoo.com)
    Subject:low pay

    When I started working in this field 5 years ago I was upset at the low pay too. I was even more upset when I got my degree and my raise wasn't much of anything. Then one of my professors told me something that made me think. She plainly stated that she wouldn't want anyone working in her center that was doing it just for the money. In a way that makes sense. Who wants a teacher working with child just for the money. Teaching is a labor of love and as much as I would like to get paid more its nice to know that the people I work with do this because its their passion.


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  • Date: 11/18/2005 4:53:00 PM
    Author: Star (ilbolerostar302002@yahoo.com)
    Subject:underpaid educators

    I'm from Montreal, Quebec and have 14 years of experience as an early childhood educator. I have been making 18.36$ an hour for the past 2 years. Our daycares here are subsidized by the governement and so is our salary. The government froze all rates at 18.36$ for now. The unionized daycares have striked because of the low wages. So at the moment anyone with 10 years or more can only make 18.36$.


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  • Date: 11/21/2005 8:27:00 PM
    Author: Mary (mkmmary@cox.net )
    Subject:wages in child care

    Wow, $18.36/hr. sounds great compared to what I have heard!! I think the real problem is that in order to afford to pay people well, you have to charge quite a bit, and parents complain that childcare costs too much as it is. I am an in-home childcare provider licensed for 12 with an assistant. I currently charge 130/week for infants, 100/week once they are potty-trained. Parents gripe that the "pay so much for childcare." I start my employees out at 6/hr. and that I know, is pathetic. The problem is convincing parents that paying more ensures that the caregivers their children know and love stay working here, instead of leaving for a better paying job. Let's face it, running a daycare is not cheap, their are a lot of expenses that go with it--toys alone cost an arm and a leg if you buy the good "educational" ones, like at Discount School Supply, etc. If I owned a center I would want to not only pay well, but offer benefits. It is a lot of work dealing with kids, and the parents don't even have a clue-afterall, their kids spend more time with us than them. Let's not forget that a lot of parents expect you to teach their kids to read and write before they even enter school!! (Which I think is ludicrous--kids need the chance to be kids, and they learn so much more through playing than people even realize!!) Anyway, I will get off my soap box! Mary


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  • Date: 11/21/2005 1:55:00 PM
    Author: bobbiann (bigddog803@go.com)
    Subject:labor of love

    OK, I'll buy that arguement, that teaching is a labor of love when doctors and nurses who treat and care the sick lower their pay to just above poverty level. You should be compensated fairly for the work you do. My friends are activily involved in Doctors Without Boarders. That's were they do their charity care. They have their regular job which is fairly compensated for their education and expertise, and volunteer own their own to help those in great need. Too many people feel teachers should do this job out of 'love'. I say PAY ME WHAT I'M WORTH! Look at pro sports players. They love playing ball, yet they expect millions. Why aren't they playing for cheap 'for the love of the game'. Teaching is alot of nurturing (like parental love). I think we equate the two together, and make excuses for why we deserve our low check.


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  • Date: 11/21/2005 8:04:00 PM
    Author: terri
    Subject:pay rates are obscenely low

    To the person who said that her director/professor said that people working in child care should be doing it because of a passion for children, I have this to say: is that director working for free? is that profesor working for free? are either of them living on poverty level wages typical of those who work in childcare? If not,then they should get off their moral high horse and get real! People may enjoy their profession but that doesnt mean they should not be fairly compensated for their work and dedication. Anyone who uses that argument trying to justify low wages for childcare workers is full of it.


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  • Date: 9/11/2006 4:29:00 PM
    Author: Marie (jeepmomma65@yahoo.com)
    Subject:I agree

    I agree with you 100%. Yes when you work with children you really need to love what you do. However, there is something to be said about being paid what you are worth. There are many other professions out there that don't involve nearly as much time, patience and skill as educating children and they earn more money. Think of the awesome responsibility childcare workers and teachers have. Do you want the person taking care of your child to be paid just above poverty wages?


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  • Date: 12/4/2005 7:47:00 PM
    Author: Kelly Santiago (allourkinkelly@yahoo.com)
    Subject:Wages

    It is crazy how little we are paid for our experience and education, the children we work with are our future leaders and it is up to us to instill certain qualities and skills in the children. Our job is so important, with economy the way it is who else can support these families with the development of their young children, so that they can put food on the table and clothes on their little bodies, it is us that fill that void. I work in Connecticut and currently earn 10.50 an hour with a CDA plus 12 ECE credits,I am currently working towards my Associates but I feel that we work so hard and give so much of our heart to our work that we should be valued a little more and compensated alot more for the time and money we spend to become educated in our feild of work so that we can be effective in meeting the goals we set for the children we work with. We are so much more that childcare providers and anyone who works the feild know's exactly what I mean!


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  • Date: 12/16/2005 10:27:00 AM
    Author: Barb (bjliben1386@aol.com)
    Subject:As a director, I can see both sides of t...

    As a director, I can see both sides of the pay issue. Yes, my staff deserve more than they are making, but we are a not for profit center, depending on tuitions to pay our bills. We have a few subsidized children, but most of the over 100 children are self pay. There is such a fine line between what parents are able to pay for QUALITY childcare. If tuitions are too high, they will place their children in unlicensed homes where there is no guarantee that the child will be learning in a safe environment. Yes, it is the parent's right to place their child wherever they want, but I feel it is important to offer a quality program at an affordable price. We make up for lower wages with as many perks as we can afford. Staff gets a check for Christmas from half to a whole week of pay, depending on our income the beginning of December. We try to do extra things, above the benefits that we offer, like providing a meal at staff meetings, very nice, practical gifts for Provider Appreciation Day and other small things throughout the year. They can order the supplies they need and resource books that they feel will help them in the classroom. I printed out a message on professionalism to share with my staff. In order to be treated as a professional, staff do need to act professional. We all need to be involved in advocacy issues to help those, who control government funding for early childhood, know what the issues are that we are facing. As a private center, we can not compete with the wages offered by Head Start or other government programs and my staff knows that. But those who have been here for awhile appreciate being in a Christian center where they have the opportunity to run their classrooms in the ways that they want, teaching within the structure of our mission statement and philosophy. Yes, we all need more money, but sometimes you are able to sacrifice big checks for a feeling of personal satisfaction in knowing that you are doing so much for the children in our care. I know personal satisfaction will not pay the bills and I don't mean to imply that we deserve less. But sometimes money isn't the most important issue.


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  • Date: 12/5/2005 11:37:00 AM
    Author: Carol (DivaMom@aol.com)
    Subject:The Bottom of the Barrel

    In my opinion the reason that we are paid so poorly is because we ACCEPT the low pay. Also, this is a nurturing business that is made up almost entirely by WOMEN. The poor pay hasn't changed and won't until legislation requires it.


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  • Date: 12/12/2005 8:25:00 AM
    Author: Nadine (nade81@aol.com)
    Subject:I am currently working on my Associates ...

    I am currently working on my Associates Degree in Early Childhood Education. I was wondering what the average pay in GA is with this degree.


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  • Date: 4/19/2007 7:17:00 AM
    Author: shirley (prettyeyesgood_tk@yahoo.com)
    Subject:early childhood

    Hi I have associate degree in early childhood education and 10years experience in early childhood. What kind of pay would I get in GA.


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  • Date: 6/10/2007 6:14:00 AM
    Author: Tina (bettina_to@yahoo.com)
    Subject:Associates in ECE

    Learning Care Group, which owns Childtime, Tutortime, La Petite -- you would make approximately $8-$12.


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  • Date: 12/12/2005 8:25:00 AM
    Author: Nadine (nade81@aol.com)
    Subject:I am currently working on my Associate...

    I am currently working on my Associates Degree in Early Childhood Education. I was wondering what the average pay in GA is with this degree.


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  • Date: 12/12/2005 2:43:00 PM
    Author: shai (spalidina@hotmail.com)
    Subject:pay rate

    what is the payrate for an associates degree in ECE. i have the same question as nadine.. please reply soon.


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  • Date: 12/12/2005 3:33:00 PM
    Author: Kelly Santiago (allourkinkelly@yahoo.com)
    Subject:Pay Rate

    I'm not sure what the pay rate is for an Associates I think it depends on were you work, but I'm not gonna settle for anything less than I'm worth. I am lucky enough to have a job that I can advance in and the day I don't feel I am getting what I deserve I will move on! Yes our feild is made up of mainly women, but what does that tell you about why we are so undervalued. The only ones that can force change is us, if we take a stand and demand to be seen as professionals, I am not a baby sitter and I take my job seriously as I'm sure many of you do as well, but I really fell that we are the only one's that force that change!


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  • Date: 1/1/2006 4:39:00 PM
    Author: John (primaryaccount1@yahoo.com)
    Subject:Brightside Academy Centers in PA/Unions

    Yes, Agreed - the quality of care at the Brightside Academy centers (formerly ACCA/Allegheny) is dismal in Philadelphia, but the centers I personally been inside (and know of) in Pittsburgh are not much better; and those centers, though the same company, are NOT union. Brightside should be the example of why unions don't work, although their corporate-run centers that aren't unionized offer bottom of the barrel care too. Shame on them. Somewhere in this, upper management has accountability too.


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  • Date: 7/5/2006 7:13:00 AM
    Author: Mrs. DeWitt-Hicks (nana4runner@msn.com)
    Subject:Unions Do Work

    Union cannot work when in fact they have people willing to work up under any conditions and do not report the information to the union, which the workers at Brightside do not do becuase they are willing to keep their job instead of health issues and safety issues; furthermore, the Directors tell the workers that no one will have a job is they report different issues; therefore, they work up under any condition. The workers complain to each other instead of telling the union that there are problems within the company. Union cannot assist if they do not no the problems and workers are willing to hide the problems just to keep a job. For example, the center at 40th Market has a high level of mice and children are sleeping on the floor. At time they have no trash bags, no diapers bag, no paper towels, no plates and providers have to buy them, no nothing but they work under these condition and do not provide the union with information so it came change into a health and safe environment.


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  • Date: 12/25/2005 3:15:00 AM
    Author: Iftikhar (info@londonschoolofislamics.org.uk)
    Subject:Learn Urdu Not French

    Learn Urdu Not French Bilingualism is not a problem, it is an asset. As so many pupils in UK have English as a second language or alternative language. We should be celebrating the fact that we have such a diverse language culture in our schools. Indeed, we should try to encourage some of our monolingual native pupils to join in the learning of a community language. Five of the languages that are gaining in popularity are Arabic, Chinese, Portuguese, Russian and Urdu. The future for languages in the United Kingdom is very bright, if we abandon the notion that we have to stick rigidly to French and German. Welcome to a brave new world in which pupils learn Urdu in all schools right from Nursery level. Bilingual Muslim teachers should be appointed in all schools who are well versed in Urdu Language. It is spoken and understood by nearly four million British Asian. It is a common language from Kabul to Burma. Lord Hasting was appointed the first Governor General of Bengal because he was well versed in Farsi and Urdu. It is a lingua franca in all inner cities where Asians are in majority. British education system has never taken keen interest in the teaching and learning of Urdu and majority of British born Muslim children could not learn to read and write. Credit goes to the Imams from the sub-continent who use Urdu in their Masajid and keep the Urdu language alive. But the British establishments with the help of the so called leaders are forcing Masajid to use English instead of Urdu. Indian and Pakistani films are being shown every where. There are nearly a dozen TVs Channels and radio stations broadcasting in Urdu/Hindi for 24 hours, entertaining Asians through out Western Europe. BBC has been requested to set up a TV Channel in Urdu/Hindi. Musical concerts are being arranged all over the country and top singers from the Sub-continent sing songs for the entertainment of the Public. It is crucial for the Muslim children from the sub-continent to learn Urdu to keep in touch with their cultural roots. Most of Islamic literature and poetry is in Urdu and not in any other Indian Languages. Therefore, in my opinion, both Muslim parents and schools must teach Urdu so that the children can enjoy the beauty of Urdu literature and poetry. I would like to see even native children learning Urdu and not French so that they can learn to respect and understand British Muslim community through Urdu literature and poetry. The Independent news paper also asks for the teaching of Urdu instead of French in British schools for better race relations through a language. Iftikhar Ahmad


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  • Date: 12/25/2005 7:06:00 PM
    Author: Katherine (ksuth@suthex.net)
    Subject:alberta pays

    Over the last two years alberta has been introducing and encouraging all daycare centres to become accredited. This process is long and extensive...our centre took one year from beginning to finish in redoing and changing not only the standards and quality of how the centre is run to how the staff respond to situations, best practice is used more now. Accreditated centres are approved by a provincial board. Any centred that was approved for accreditation status, the employee's that have a level 3 ( diploma in Early Childhood Education-ECE) received a $ 3.00 wage enhancement from the province. from money that was given by the government to enhance all ece employees. currently there are only 10 centres in the province that are accredited. and only 1 in 4 employees at these centres have their level 3.


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  • Date: 12/29/2005 4:22:00 AM
    Author: Candace (dandimg@iwon.com)
    Subject:WOW!

    I just finished reading all the entries and WOW!! I live in Missouri. I have a Bachelor of Arts in Elementary Education and a minor in Early Childhood with three years daycare experience. I only get paid $6/hour with 40 hours vacation and 40 hours sick/personal time off. To imagine being paid $9 or $18 an hour is completely unreal. We just got overtime pay about three months ago. Most of our staff works 40 hours but a couple of us work closer to 60 hours a week. I seriously can't fathom getting paid that much and having extra benefits as well. I applaud all the centers who are doing more to help their teachers!!!


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  • Date: 12/30/2005 9:30:00 PM
    Author: Rudy
    Subject:Dear WOW

    Do you have a teaching certificate to teach in the school system? If so look into teaching pre-kdg in your school system. That is what I do and I get teacher salary and teacher benefits. I work in daycare for 20+ years starting at 3.35 per hr and ending the 21st yr at 6.35. I tripled my salary when I got into the public school system. Inquire about the school districts in your area and see if they have pre-kdg programs. It is just an idea.


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  • Date: 1/3/2006 5:27:00 PM
    Author: Nancy (Nancy2550@aol.com)
    Subject:I live in oshawa ontario and i make 28.5...

    I live in oshawa ontario and i make 28.51 per hour as an ece. Does anyone know what they pay per hour in Calgary alberta....I was thinking of moving there.


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  • Date: 12/30/2005 10:34:00 PM
    Author: arkana
    Subject:not enough

    I make 6.50/hr teaching preschool. Luckily I live in a fairly affordable area, but its pretty ridiculous I could make more flipping burgers. I don't get health benefits, or any paid time off - I lose money when the center is closed for any reason and that makes "holidays" not so jolly.


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  • Date: 1/12/2006 10:56:00 AM
    Author: Chelsea McDonald (chelseanotblonde@hotmail.com)
    Subject:ECE?

    Im am researching this career and i would like to find out more about it and I was wondering what an ECE is and is it required to have an education for that to work at a daycare. You see I am wanting to be a Owner of a Daycare center and I have to know all of the qulifications for my class powerpoint presentation? Thank You for you time Chelsea McDonald


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  • Date: 1/12/2006 2:22:00 PM
    Author: Veronica Ramirez (veronicabegrime@yahoo.com)
    Subject:ECE Early Childhood Education


    ECE stands for Early Childhood Education. When certified in this field you can care for newborns and children through the age of 8. Children receiving early education may attend public or private centers or homes. In order to obtain this certificate you would have to complete 300 hours in an accredited Child Care course which includes field work (working with children) as well as going to class discussing what happened during the week with peers, making arts and crafts, etc. You will also be requiered to get CPR training as well as a TB Test. After obtaining your ECE Certificate, in the state of California, one must take 12 College Units with a grade of "C" or better within a year of obtaining the certificate otherwise it will not be valid. Most centers, when hired will require fingerprints as well. Hope this info. helps but if it doesn't you can go to www.cdacouncil.org or www.naeyc.org


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  • Date: 1/13/2006 6:03:00 AM
    Author: Rudy
    Subject:ECE

    I am from Illinois and to get an ECE certificate you must complete a 4 yrs of college and obtain a Bachelors degree then then you take a state certification test to obtain the ECE certificate. This certifies you to teach birth - 3rd grade in public schools. For Day cares in Illlinois to be a head teacher you need 2yrs of college. Tbe an assistant you need 60 hrs. I hope this infor helps.


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  • Date: 1/13/2006 10:52:00 AM
    Author: unschooling
    Subject:I live in Chicago and I am trying to get...

    I live in Chicago and I am trying to get my associates in ECE but am having a hard time finding an institution to attend. Any suggestions?


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  • Date: 1/17/2006 7:58:00 PM
    Author: Tascha (tascha_powell@yahoo.com)
    Subject:Hi, I hope this information is helpfu...

    Hi, I hope this information is helpful. I got my Associate Degree from St Augustine College in Chicago. They have a great ECE program there. Good Luck!!!


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  • Date: 3/14/2006 3:07:00 PM
    Author: Tiffany Petersen (tiffanypetersen2@yahoo.com)
    Subject:Need More information on beginning my in home day care.

    Hello My name is Tiffany Petersen and I live in sacramento California and I am wanting someone to talk to about beginning my in home day care business. I wanted to know how long will it take me to get the license and how much will I get Paid. I am currently checking out a lot of sights and found this sight on the internet this morning and would like some one to get back to me I am hoping to find some one who has a in home day care in california so that we may be talking buddies through this.


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  • Date: 4/27/2006 10:57:00 AM
    Author: barbara (mbq037@msn.com)
    Subject:question for inhome day care providers

    I'm wondering what your profit is after ongoing expenses (food, craft materials, insurance, etc) for a paper I'm writing on the difficulties facing daycare providers. Can anyone help? TIA


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  • Date: 4/27/2006 11:51:00 AM
    Author: bethie (Early childhood ages)
    Subject:profit

    I figure that my profit after all expenses is about 65-70% of what the parents pay me.


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  • Date: 5/19/2006 1:04:00 PM
    Author: Stella (themom869@aol.com)
    Subject:dress code

    What is appropriate attire for head teachers and teacher assistants? Especially summer clothing? As an owner of a daycare center I am noticing that clothing styles have changed over the years.


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  • Date: 10/28/2006 3:29:00 PM
    Author: Karen Phillips (rkwphillips@chartermi.net)
    Subject:We employ college students for part time...

    We employ college students for part time and summer help and have noticed more skin showing than we would like to see. During our weekly staff meeting, with a college student present, we decided that we didn't want to see the 3 Bs: bosom, butt or belly. Shorts I don't mind. It helped that the college student had some say in this and it did stop the skimpy clothing.


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  • Date: 11/17/2006 6:40:00 PM
    Author: Rochelle (rdhimmelrick@hotmail.com)
    Subject:dress code

    I too was having problems at our child care center and as director I want my staff to dress professional. At first I allowed my staff to dress modest, but the problem was that what I termed modest was not the same for them. I instilled a uniform policy of a polo shirt and so far I have not had any more problems. I had the polo shirt embroidered with the school name on as well. It does look sharp and the staff members have expressed that they too like the new policy. I also had to be very specific during the summer on the shorts policy and I have found that to be helpful.


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  • Date: 5/20/2006 7:39:00 PM
    Author: corinne (corey37@hotmail.com)
    Subject:looking for an ECE position

    i'm currently looking for an ECE position in ontario. i have been out of the field for 5 years but i want to get back into it again. i find it really frustrating when i apply for jobs that are advertised as full-time and then when i get the interview they state oh by the way you will start as supply staff. i would take those but i really can't live on supply work since it's so sporatic. can anyone offer any suggestions or want to hire a hard working, dedicated, and reliable ECE? Corinne


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  • Date: 5/21/2006 7:08:00 AM
    Author: val (toadysnif@aol.com)
    Subject:what to pay

    i'm starting my own home daycare in los angeles and am wondering what i should expect to pay my assistants. summer is coming up and i was thinking about just getting a couple neighborhood girls to help out since they'll be out of school. I haven't the slightest idea what i should expect to pay them. since i'm just starting i can't even think about paying for benefits until i know i'll be able to survive myself on the income. i think by the time the school year starts i should have a good idea how flexible i can be with the income.


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  • Date: 2/13/2007 1:34:00 PM
    Author: Audra Dukes (mrsd24@msn.com)
    Subject:What to pay ypur hired help

    Well I have been doing childcare for 9 years, and for person's with experience I pay 10.00 and that's pretty good because min. wage is only 5.15 here. Also I think since they are school age and can't be left alone with the kids that it's fair to pay them what ever min. wage is there. Most inhome daycares don't offer benefits other than maybe paid vacation. Hope this helps. Memphis, TN.


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  • Date: 5/21/2006 3:34:00 PM
    Author: Linda (lam0350@yahoo.com)
    Subject:What do CDA

    How many people have earned their CDA and what kind of raises have you received? What was your age when you completed this? I am now going thru this schooling and can't wait to see the results it is to bring!


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  • Date: 10/18/2006 4:30:00 PM
    Author: Diana (diana.glenn@ocdc.net)
    Subject:CDA

    Hello! I earned my CDA in 1980, while teaching Pre School. I was 26 at the time. I taught Pre School in a Head Start program for 23 years, and then I was a CDA Trainer for a couple of years. Now I am a Staff Development Administrative Assistant, and help other to get hooked up with their CDA training, and work with them to go on to take college classes and eventually earn their AA in ECE. Our organization recently instituted a new Teacher pay scale which is based on completing a CDA, a CDA +30 college credits, a CDA +60 credits, and AA in ECE, and AA + 30 crdits toward a BA, AA+60, BA. By the way even though i have my AA degree, i have kept my CDA active all of these years. It is an excellent program, if you have a good trainer or trainers.


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  • Date: 3/7/2007 6:12:00 PM
    Author: ms. thompson (mthompson807@yahoo.com)
    Subject:how??

    Hello i was writing to ask how do you become a trainer. can you please provide me with any information possible at my web or by phone at 904-379-9128. Thank you sweetie and god bless you.


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  • Date: 7/12/2007 9:37:00 AM
    Author: Penelope Duncan (pfrench@vbhcs.org)
    Subject:EarlyChildhood Trainer

    Hi, I moved here recently from West Kentucky, and taught public preschool for more than 10 years. I worked with at-risk families and developementally delayed students.I have a BA in EleK-4, LBDK-12 and MA IECE. I started training for the Purchase Area Developmental District (PADD) Office for folks needing to obtain CDA hours and loved it!I worked for them for two years. At this time I am the coordinator for the Regional Intervention Program (RIP) in Gallatin. But, I am interested in training in again. Please contact me at 569-4114 0r e-mail pfrench@vbhcs.org. I would love to train for you!


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  • Date: 7/26/2006 2:34:00 PM
    Author: kristina (trinsmommy@hotmail.com)
    Subject:job offer

    I was woundering what is the norm start out pay to be a teacher at kindercare is? I am going in the mornning to read over my offer letter and have not been told of how much I will make. I also was woundering if they give huge discounts on child care for employees. I mentioned in my interview that I wanted to be able to bank 50% of my earnnings after paying for the discount child care they offer and it seemd like that would not be a big dilemha at the time but now Im curiouse if its going to be worth my time and money. do any of you know this?


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  • Date: 9/13/2006 11:05:00 AM
    Author: Nikki (nicole_y25@yahoo.com)
    Subject:job offer kindercare

    Hi kristina..wondering how the kindercare position is going? do you mind giving info on pay, childcare for an employees child, benefits,holidays, etc? i recently applied with kindercare and i am trying to get a "heads up" prior to my interview next week. any help would be great...thanks!


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  • Date: 8/15/2006 2:58:00 PM
    Author: Jordana (playhousedaycare@hotmail.com)
    Subject:Pay rate for an LFCC assistant

    I there I would like to know what is the pay rate for a LFCC assistant in the marlboro/Hudson-MA area? I'm hiring one but have no idea how much to offer. Thank you all for your help.


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  • Date: 8/26/2006 1:53:00 PM
    Author: vio (cadenza318@aol.com)
    Subject:My daughter was insulted in daycare center in TX.

    My daughter was insulted in daycare center in TX. From daycare screen I saw my daughter's teacher(she is new only three days) took her blanket away rudely from her hand & throw to the top of shelf without any explanations. Let her cried out by herself. I rushed in, hold her up & went to the instructor's office rightway. Next day, the instructor told me, that teacher said she told my daughter twice to put her blanket away, but my daughter said no. Also, teacher had bad day she was frustrated, so she did that to my 3 years old daughter. If I wouldn't stop by the screen & find this horrible things rightway, I can't think how poor this little innocent girl's hopeless day. The instructor said to me that she does not like I share those information to the other parents. She said I exchange phone number with other parents to share the information at daycare center was against law. But this same person she used to be very happy for us chat at front of screen. She called me last year, asked me if she can give my phone # to one parents, who was not sure if she should let her kid enrolled there. She even throw me the thick 'Law Book' on the table said I did exchange phone # with another parents was against 'Law.' But how about before? Situation changes Law changes? What she is try to hide? I asked her several times why this school teacher turned overs percentage is so high. She said 35% turned over was normal. My daughter enroled there last year March. She had 8 different techers, not include this new one. One day my friend's child's class, three teacher left in the morning whiout notiec. Somethings going wrong there. Thanks God I could took my child out right away. I'm hoping other parents will knew that teacher's behave too.


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  • Date: 9/11/2006 4:26:00 PM
    Author: Marie (jeepmomma65@yahoo.com)
    Subject:Pay for preschool teachers

    Can someone please tell me why a highway maintenance worker earns more than a preschool teacher? Not to put down maintenance workers. We need them desperately. However, I have been interviewing for preschool teaching positions for the past 3 months and I am totally frustrated at what I am being offered! The highest offer I received was for $13 with no benefits! I recently returned to school to earn my A.S. degree in Child Development and have 8 years of experience working with children. How can anyone live on $13 an hour? Aren't we worth more than that? I want to continue my education and get a B.S. but now I'm not sure I want to rack up more loans. Thanks for letting me vent!


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  • Date: 9/13/2006 10:59:00 AM
    Author: Nikki (nicole_y25@yahoo.com)
    Subject:preschool teacher pay

    hi there.. I currently operate a childcare center from my home. I am licensed and have a degree in ECE. I recently applied to a Kindercare Center for a lead teacher position. I interview next week. I need the financial stability as anyone who has operated in home childcare knows. I also need benefits, retirement etc. Anyone out there work for Kindercare? What is your experience an what is Kindercare's pay scale? I do agree with all of you ..we are the most underpaid persons with degrees. It is insulting what Preschool Teachers earn. I have inquired with numerous centers in my area..NE Ohio..and I have been offered only 7 to 9 dollars hourly for a Lead Teacher Position.


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  • Date: 9/13/2006 11:00:00 AM
    Author: Nikki (nicole_y25@yahoo.com)
    Subject:preschool teacher pay

    hi there.. I currently operate a childcare center from my home. I am licensed and have a degree in ECE. I recently applied to a Kindercare Center for a lead teacher position. I interview next week. I need the financial stability as anyone who has operated in home childcare knows. I also need benefits, retirement etc. Anyone out there work for Kindercare? What is your experience an what is Kindercare's pay scale? I do agree with all of you ..we are the most underpaid persons with degrees. It is insulting what Preschool Teachers earn. I have inquired with numerous centers in my area..NE Ohio..and I have been offered only 7 to 9 dollars hourly for a Lead Teacher Position.


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  • Date: 11/26/2006 3:45:00 AM
    Author:
    Subject:Ohio!

    NE Ohio teacher pay stinks. You should be able to find a position at $9+ an hour out there. Look around. Watch out for non-profits and church-run centers. Many pay more but benefits (and unemployment benefits) may be lacking. Head Start pays well, but thanks to Gov Taft the program has seriously been slashed here in the state. If you can get a position in a Head Start you should get better pay and job security.


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  • Date: 12/1/2006 2:40:00 PM
    Author: Lin (followthebutterflies@gmail.com)
    Subject:pay rates

    It's not much better in the HeadStart programs in SW Ohio. I'm an assistant with a Bachelors degree in Psych, working on my CDA, and have worked with preschoolers in other positions. I only make 9 cents more than someone straight out of high school (who makes 8.45/hour). Yet I pay 260 bucks a month to pay my student loans.


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  • Date: 10/11/2006 6:42:00 AM
    Author: Francesca (Cescajudd@aol.com)
    Subject:Opening a Daycare Centre

    I am very interested in opening my own daycare centre in Ontario. Can someeone provide me with some useful information on where I should be started to do my research and business plan? Any tips would be greatly appreciated.


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  • Date: 11/20/2006 2:28:00 PM
    Author: Sammy (samereb@yahoo.com)
    Subject:Home daycare agency

    Hi I just wanted to know if anyone had any information on how home daycare persons in Ontario Canada get paid and how much. Also how does the vacation work, who cares for the children of that provider, and if there is anything else I should know please email me.


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  • Date: 2/14/2007 6:52:00 AM
    Author: Selina (selina.hill@gmail.com)
    Subject:Starting Childcare, Wage Review

    I am in the process of starting a childcare center. I know that the wages are low and I want to pay more than most centers as well as keep my bottom line square. I have thought up a plan in order to help set wages. Please give me your feedback Starting Wage $8 per hour Addition's Experience = $0.25 per hour per year Education = $0.50 per hour per year Relevant Education = $0.35 per hour per year Years with us = $0.10 per hour per year Performance Review Points = $0.02 per point (up to 100 points) So if someone has 4 years experience ($1), 4 years College Education in Childhood Development ($3.40), have been with us for 3 years ($0.30), and 50 performace review points ($1.00). This person would make $13.70 per hour. If nothing changes except one more year experience then the following year they'd be making $14.05 per hour. How does this formula feel? Is it reasonable? Our employees will receive medical benifits and an annual allocation of $1500 for secondary education. Please give your feedback. Just a little info, most childcare in my area do not pay more than $11 per hour.


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  • Date: 2/14/2007 10:12:00 AM
    Author:
    Subject:wow! a good paying center! do you expect...

    wow! a good paying center! do you expect to manke any money ???


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  • Date: 2/16/2007 8:43:00 AM
    Author: Barbara
    Subject:Wage Review

    Where are you located? I think the area has a lot to do with wages. We are in South Central Pennsylvania. Also, what are your rates for each age group? We are in an area where child care is just starting to be recognized as a profession, but we can not pay the kind of wages in your scale. I would love to be able to do that, but our tuition would be so high that parents would not be able to afford it and would either sent their children to an unlicensed home or let them go home alone. We start at $6.50 for a aide, $7.25 for an assistant until they complete New Staff Orientation and $9.25 for a teacher. At the annual review, the board decides on the percentage of increase based on the review. Have you checked into health insurance? We are paying almost $575 a month per employee with the enployee paying 25% with payroll deductions. We pay for training and the hours of training, but it does not amount to $1500 per person. We could not afford that. You must be in a wealthy area where parent can afford to pay high tuitions. Your plan/pay scale sounds good to me, but undoable in our area.


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  • Date: 4/21/2007 12:28:00 PM
    Author: Robin (shughey@comcast.net)
    Subject:payrate in or around Austin Texas

    I am looking to relocate myself and my family to the Austin Texas area. Does anyone know what the going rate for a teacher with 20 years of experience is?


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  • Date: 6/11/2007 11:25:00 AM
    Author:
    Subject:rate for Wichita?

    what do you need to be a preschool teacher in Wichita kansas. and where to avoid.


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  • Date: 6/17/2007 2:50:00 PM
    Author: KAT HARRIS (katharris1980@yahoo.com)
    Subject:child care demand post Katrina in Baton Rouge

    Hi, i have a home based daycare in Tennessee and am thinking about relocating to Baton Rouge But wasn't sure if there is a high demand for homebases


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  • Date: 6/19/2007 10:18:00 AM
    Author: Liji George (ranimol007@hotmail.com)
    Subject:pay rate help?

    Hi, i am considering on working either part time or full time at a day care or private preschool school. I have BA degree. I was wondering how much I should ask for as pay...I live in Dallas, TX. thanks!


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  • Date: 7/6/2007 3:00:00 PM
    Author: dd mathews (deedee@firstmethodistchurch.com)
    Subject:pay rate




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  • Date: 7/6/2007 3:00:00 PM
    Author: dd mathews (deedee@firstmethodistchurch.com)
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  • Date: 6/19/2007 8:25:00 PM
    Author: Michelle (moorems0@yahoo.com)
    Subject:MAE pay and denial of jobs

    I have a Master's degree plus a license to teach grades 1-6. I have been in Early Childhood Education outside the public school system since my graduation and now I am having difficulties finding a job within a school corporation. I keep getting denied due to pay. They say since I have a Master's degree that it puts me in a higher bracket and they can't afford me. I've even tried to negotiate pay saying that I will take lower pay. Is there anyone else out there like me? Is there anyone with suggestions?


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  • Date: 6/21/2007 7:38:00 AM
    Author: Barbara
    Subject:I had the same situation when we moved t...

    I had the same situation when we moved to a new area. I had 8 years of public school experience and a Master's degree. I was told I was too expensive, but they would be glad to have me sub. I also was willing to work at the starting rate, but because of the teachers' unions, they were not allowed to pay me less. I ended up working in a clothing store until other opportunities came up. I don't have any suggestions for getting into a school district, unless you are willing to sub, prove to them that you are worth more money and wait for a permanent position to come along. Are you working in child care now? With your qualifications, you may be able to be a director where the pay is better than teaching in a center. But the hours are long for the pay that you get. I usually work 6 days a week to get everything done that I need to do in a week's time. Good luck in your search.


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  • Date: 6/21/2007 11:16:00 AM
    Author: Michelle (moorems0@yahoo.com)
    Subject:I am currently working for Head Start......

    I am currently working for Head Start...and I love it! The problem is that the pay doesn't help me pay my student loans which have been deferred again and againplus my other bills. I'm am so tired of living pay check to pay check and having my degrees so underappreciated. I really thought I was doing the right thing when I went for my Master's. If I could do it all again I wouldn't even bother. I spoke with a principal last week who said he had the funding for a Bachelor's level teacher with 3 years experience. I'm too educated to teach. Interesting isn't it?! As far as being a director...I've actually tried that and I prefer to teach. Plus, I look forward to spending time during the summer with my children. And surprisingly, when I was a director I really didn't make that much more money. The headaches weren't worth the little bit of extra money. I have also substituted, but with substituting there is no health insurance. Barbara-Thanks so much for your ear!


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  • Date: 6/19/2007 8:25:00 PM
    Author: Michelle (moorems0@yahoo.com)
    Subject:MAE pay and denial of jobs

    I have a Master's degree plus a license to teach grades 1-6. I have been in Early Childhood Education outside the public school system since my graduation and now I am having difficulties finding a job within a school corporation. I keep getting denied due to pay. They say since I have a Master's degree that it puts me in a higher bracket and they can't afford me. I've even tried to negotiate pay saying that I will take lower pay. Is there anyone else out there like me? Is there anyone with suggestions?


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  • Date: 7/8/2007 11:29:00 PM
    Author: Linda (LindaJamesReid@aol.com)
    Subject:Starting a preschool business

    I am trying to start a preschool at my church, has anyone any advice or suggestions. We are in California.


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  • Date: 7/10/2007 4:10:00 AM
    Author: Sheila (sheilagail@comcast.net)
    Subject:Church Preschool

    I was lead to start a Learning Center 6 years ago at my church. I'm not going to sugar coat - it's a lot of hard work. But I wouldn't change anything or any experience over the last 5 years. We have grown from 9 children to 75 (including before/after school children). You have a decision to make first and formost; Are you going to operate your preschool as a business or as a ministry? Once you have answered that question then you can move forward. It is a very rewarding venture but if you are in it for the money, then you probably will need to look into another profession. Teaching is not for money, teaching is an opportunity to have an important part in a child's life that will go with them forever. I am a salaried director that puts in 10 - 14 hour days because we are a full time preschool. I don't do this for fame, glory or money...you have to do it for the families you touch. If you have any questions that I may help with, please email me! Blessings and Prayers to You! Sheilagail


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  • Date: 7/20/2007 4:13:00 PM
    Author: Linda (lam0350@yahoo.com)
    Subject:CDA

    This is an update to my posting 5/21/06 on my CDA. After what seemed to be forever, I finally received my CDA dated June 2007! If I can start this process at age 56, and be awarded the CDA at age 57, anyone that is dedicted like me, can do this! I have been a ChildCare Provider since 1982.


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  • Date: 10/7/2007 10:47:00 AM
    Author: gennnniiikk (gennnniiikk@vinbazar.com)
    Subject:pharma best top

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  • Date: 10/8/2007 8:48:00 AM
    Author: Megan (mommycolinwb@yahoo.com)
    Subject:South Florida pay rates and info

    Hi All, I am currently in school in south Florida working towards my associate degree in early childhood education. Everyday I am wondering if what I am doing is pointless? People tell me you will make the same $ as a prek teacher with a CDA as with an associates degree. I really want to get my degree though, it's just something I feel I want to do. I was wondering does anyone have any thoughts, info on this. Am I wasting my time and money getting a degree? And what should I expect to be paid once I start working? Thanks in advance!!